Thursday, February 25, 2010

*sigh*

I have joined a community read of Cry, the Beloved Country. If you aren't familiar with this book, it is a story of South Africa during the formative years of apartheid. We are doing this in conjunction with the local high school's senior English class.

So on the first day of this endeavor, a gentleman who used to attend my parish showed up to be part of it. He decided that he could not attend our church as long as we were allowing gays to be priests and bishops (and he probably wouldn't attend if we actually allowed "those people" to be part of the congregation). But, whatever, his choice.

"Hello," I said politely. "How have you been?"

To which he responded (and no, I am not making this up):

"You know, I'd come back to your church if they got their act together up there. If they just shot that bishop who is causing all the problems, that would solve everything."

The conversation didn't get any better from there, and I finally told him, "This conversation is over," and walked away.

The book group should be interesting.

7 comments:

Mark | 7:12 AM, February 26, 2010  

No. Way. And he stayed for the study? Gosh, I wonder if it will hit him in the course of the book... No, probably not. Because blacks aren't bad people, not like those gays. **sigh**

Reverend Ref + | 10:22 AM, February 26, 2010  

Yeah . . . I'm sort of watching for that moment.

Mark J. | 5:21 PM, February 26, 2010  

If it happens, let me know. In fact, it might be worth hiding some cameras, the expression should be priceless. You wouldn't even need audio, to protect the safety of discussion.

Ecgbert | 9:50 AM, February 27, 2010  

What can I say?

Conservatives like liberals can be their own worst enemies.

Some of the new-breed Anglican conservatives are one-issue Johnnies like this chap.

Interestingly some of them, David Virtue for example, see us - the late, great Anglo-Catholicism - as the villains in this piece for sullying the pure and godly doctrine of Cranmer and Ridley which apparently was delivered on Sinai or rediscovered, Joseph Smith fashion. (They have a point as it seems we were wrong about the nature of Anglicanism, and Newman's method in Tract XC has consequences he never intended.)

As for the heart of the matter - fallible or infallible church, which I see as the heart of the 'Reformation' and thus the problem - I don't see how murdering the Episcopalian Bishop of New Hampshire would solve anything.

Ecgbert | 9:54 AM, February 27, 2010  

P.S. ACs (people with views similar to mine) pioneered the anti-apartheid movement as you probably know. I knew a late priest who was deported from Namibia in the 1960s and ended his days supplying at a Continuing parish.

Ecgbert | 10:00 AM, February 27, 2010  

P.P.S. Fr Mark, of course what the conservatives are objecting to is some behaviour, a choice, which they say is sinful, very different from race as the conservative black Pentecostals at the church on the same block as mine will tell you.

Padre Mickey | 6:14 PM, March 02, 2010  

As much as I dislike the actions of BIshop Akinola, I don't think it's right for your friend to want him shot.

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