Once a month the "Usual Suspects" (clergy from the RCC, UMC, PCUSA, ELCA, DOC and myself) get together to talk about the upcoming Lectionary readings, sermon ideas and other stuff that pops up. It's a pretty informal gathering done over lunch. The Presbyterian pastor has been the Reminder Dude for us, sending an e-mail reminding everybody of the upcoming meeting. The RC priest replied to the most recent reminder (in part) with this:
I was hoping to discern your interest in joining St. A's for an
ecumenical service on the evening of June 27th to pray for our country
and the protection of our religious liberties. You may remember that I
brought up this issue several months ago and has now become the hotbed
of many political debates. We are hoping to stand together to pray for
the protection of our rights which are being threatened.
I really don't see the big threat he does (or is being told to see by the Catholic hierarchy), so I hit "Reply All" with my thoughts on an ecumenical service praying for our religious liberties:
Tuesday, June 12, 2012
Ecumenical Service for Religious Liberties
Posted by
Reverend Ref +
at
3:20 PM
Dear
B+,
I
read your e-mail asking for our thoughts in joining St. Anne’s on June 27 to
“pray for our country and the protection of our religious liberties.” With all due respect, I see no threat to our
religious liberties.
What
I do see, however, are attempts to abstain from offering, or outright limiting,
full legal protection and care for certain groups of citizens: most notably
women and LGBT people. It appears to me
that these attempts to attack minority equality most often come under the guise
of “religious freedom.”
In
the broad picture, the most recent reports from the U.S. Department of Health
and Human Services indicate that there are currently more than 581,000 children
in our foster care system. Of those
children, more than 20 percent, about 121,000, are available for adoption. Other studies indicate that unplanned pregnancies
cost the U.S. taxpayers approximately $11 billion each year. Instead of addressing these issues, the
“pro-life” community spends its time and energy on laws that purport to be
anti-abortion, but which also frequently restrict women’s access to many sorts of
reproductive health services, as well as post-natal care and childhood
services.
Census
data shows that women continue to be paid substantially less than men for doing
the same work, on all levels of our economy.
The gap in poverty rates between men and women is wider in American than
anywhere else in the Western world; and the poverty rate for single mothers is
double that of single fathers. Despite this
disparity, 47 senators voted against the Paycheck Fairness Act, which prevented
it even coming to a vote.
Additionally,
more than 200 senators agreed to vote in favor of the Violence Against Women
Act only after it was amended to exclude protection for undocumented immigrant,
Native American or LGBT women. I bring
these broad points up because it is most often religious and political
conservatives who make the claim that they are being persecuted while they themselves
vote to limit equality of women, minorities and people deemed as “Other,” which
is a form of persecution.
More
specifically, Roman Catholic bishops have gone on record as claiming that not
being permitted to exclude contraceptives and hormone therapy when prescription
coverage is provided as a health care benefit attacks religious convictions and
limits religious freedom. However, women
are prescribed these medications for a variety of reasons other than pregnancy
prevention. No one has ever suggested
that any individual must use or refrain from using any medication not in line
with his or her beliefs. Nor does this
mandate single out any religious body, as it also covers non-religious
institutions and agencies that receive public funding.
The
key point here is this: Faith-based
charities, hospitals and other entities that employee and serve the general
population, and/or accept public funding, cannot claim to be a private
religious institution. Those public
organizations are required to follow public policy.
Religious
liberty is not, and never has been, about the ability or liberty to impose one
person’s or group’s religion on others.
Religious liberty means that one is free to practice your religion
without persecution. Asking public
institutions to offer a full range of public services does not qualify as
persecuting the church or attacking religious liberties.
This
issue of limiting health care access to women is also related to the current
battle over same sex marriage.
Conservative groups have been attacking this as a threat to the sanctity
of marriage, “our way of life” and religious liberties. Again, I see no such threat.
If
the state wants to permit same sex marriages to be a recognized union under
civil law, with all the benefits and drawbacks of a heterosexual marriage, it
may do so. A couple would then have the
right to obtain a marriage license from a local courthouse and participate in a
civil ceremony. That said, just because
two people have a marriage license does not give them the right to have that
marriage blessed in a church.
Each
state defines under its own law who is permitted
to officiate at a marriage ceremony; however, of those who are permitted, no
state requires them to do so. The canons of the Episcopal Church state that
“It shall be within the discretion of a Member of the Clergy of this Church to
decline to solemnize any marriage.” I am
sure the canons of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as the governing
documents of other religious bodies, have similar wording. In other words, clergy have never been
required to officiate at any wedding, and proposed changes to the law do not
alter that. To make a contrary claim is
completely fallacious.
In
these arguments, the issue of separation of church and state also comes
up. What I’ve noticed is that certain
groups use Christian language to demand separation of church and state on some
issues (such as birth control), while at the same time insisting that the state
follow a specific, religiously-defined definition for what constitutes a legal
relationship (marriage).
These
issues are not a threat to religious liberties; but holding a contrary opinion
to that of the religious and political conservatives appears to be a threat to their
idea of a U.S. theocracy.
With
that being said, I respectfully decline your invitation to participate in a
service of this type.
In Christ,
Ref+
Thursday's little gathering should be interesting.
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12 comments:
Boy! You do like to stir up a hornet's nest, don't you! I like that.
My mother was Missouri Synod Lutheran, and raised my sister and me in that faith. I ducked out as soon as I could and joined the Anglican Communion. Lynn joined the Wisconsin Synod because Missouri was becoming too "liberal". Good Lord, deliver us!
First of all, most insurance companies have been offering abortion and birth control services for eons.I left Blue Cross of Maryland in 1983, and we offered them then, so why is it suddenly a Big Deal? Nobody is saying you HAVE to have an abortion or use The Pill - only that it is available if you feel, for whatever reason, that it is necessary.
The simple matter is that *everyone* is entitled to equal protection under the law - and that means LGBT folks, too. As it stands, Rome would like us all to become practicing Catholics, whether we want to or not.
Good luck on Thursday. Keep us posted.
Let me put it this way. How would you like it if the government used your tax money to pay for 'reparative therapy' for homosexuals?
More to the point: if the government made your church pay for it through its insurance.
YF: That's a fallacious example/comparison.
"Reparative therapy" isn't recognized by the medical community as a valid treatment.
Birth control treatments/medications, however, have a variety of recognized uses beyond simply birth control.
All right. What if the government forced your church to pay for something through its insurance that it condemns but that the doctors approve?
As I pointed out, coverage is being mandated for organizations that both employ and serve non-Catholics, i.e. hospitals. If a church operates a public entity, then there should be no question as to allowing coverage for all aspects of health care. In that situation, I don't have a problem with that.
But again, the mandate isn't forcing churches to pay for something it condemns; it's requiring their public organizations to cover what other public organizations cover.
The State of Oregon recently switched insurance carriers to Providence - a Catholic-based company. Should Providence now have the right to tell state employees they can no longer be covered for things the RCC disapproves of?
What is being asked in this situation is that all non-Catholics conform to Catholic doctrine based on their employment or health needs.
So how did Thursday's little gathering go?
"Birth control treatments/medications, however, have a variety of recognized uses beyond simply birth control."
Even if they didn't... shouldn't women have the right to control their own bodies, to decide for themselves when (or if) they want to have children?
John,
Thursday's meeting actually went very well. The PCUSA pastor asked the RC priest to tell us in his own words his position on the whole thing, which he did. He admitted that we probably don't, and won't, agree, but maintained the position that the gov't shouldn't be forcing the RCC, or any church, to go against their beliefs.
We didn't get into the fact that the gov't wasn't requiring churches to comply, just church-run public entities. Nor did anyone bring up the issue of why it was okay to cover Viagra for old men.
It was a polite discussion on where each of us are on the issue; but also knowing that we don't want to split our little group over it.
As a libertarian I've said: that's what you get for taking state money. The state, not the church, calls the shots. No thanks.
We didn't get into the fact that the gov't wasn't requiring churches to comply, just church-run public entities.
'Episcopalianism is fine if you keep it to yourself at home and in church.' That's like what the state is trying to tell the church. You wouldn't like it; why should we?
"As a libertarian I've said: that's what you get for taking state money. The state, not the church, calls the shots. No thanks."
If the state "calling the shots" means that a Jehovah's Witness EMT can't refuse to give me a needed blood transfusion at the scene of an accident, that's a good thing. If it means my company doesn't drop health insurance altogether if the CEO converts to Christian Science, that's a good thing. And if it means women can avail themselves of contraception through their health plan if they want it, even if they work for a Catholic organization, that's a good thing too.
You're arguing for giving churches the legal authority to deny people the right to certain kinds of healthcare. And that is a morally indefensible, repugnant argument - and especially surprising coming from a self-described libertarian.
"'Episcopalianism is fine if you keep it to yourself at home and in church.' That's like what the state is trying to tell the church. You wouldn't like it; why should we?"
"Religious freedom" does not mean the right to impose your religious beliefs upon people who don't share them; in fact, that's the exact opposite of freedom.
Nor should it ever mean codifying your religious dogma into secular law so that your congregation is given no choice but to obey it; genuine freedom includes the right to disagree even with one's own church's teachings.
Nobody has to work for or get services from a Catholic institution.
And nobody has to work for, or get services from, the Company Store either.
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